Friday, September 15, 2017

The Elefante in the Room

Latinos in America are a done deal. Good idea, bad idea, disaster, or doesn’t much matter–it’s still done. [More]
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I mostly like Fred Reed. And as much as I don't want to admit it, he's probably right about illegal immigrants being here to stay, although he's kind of short on probabilities when two disparate cultures try to occupy the same turf. He appears to have the background to grok that.

But while ridiculing motives of amnesty opponents in this and other essays on the topic, reducing it to a cartoon combination of bigotry and South Park "'ey took our jobs!" resentment, I've never seen him address the main motivator, which has nothing to do with the simple prejudices he limits his arguments to lambasting.

There's an elefante in the room I've never seen him acknowledge, let alone address.

Maybe he can be the one to answer my longstanding challenge, because it's a cinch none of the cheap labor Republicans or the NRA want to touch it:

Audit all credible polls against real world experience in places like California and then produce credible data – not opinion, not anecdotes, not isolated examples, but something that can be independently validated – demonstrating that “amnesty” and a “pathway to citizenship” for MILLIONS of foreign nationals in this country illegally (and legally, with CURRENT culturally suicidal policies) WILL NOT overwhelmingly favor Democrats and anti-gunners.

Show your sources and methodologies for determining this WILL NOT result in supermajorities in state and federal legislatures that will then be able to pass all kinds of anti-gun edicts. Show how this WILL NOT result in nominations and confirmations of judges to the Supreme and federal courts who will uphold those edicts and reverse gains made to date.

What, we need to start to think about assimilation instead? It's a little late for that, but I could add "Show how assimilation will reverse this outcome-- be sure and provide verifiable numbers to show costs and percentages against a timeline, and the likelihood that enough factions can agree on a unified plan to make a bit of difference."

In the absence of any substantive response, the questions become" "Who will be assimilating whom and under what terms?" and what happens when a critical mass will "not go gentle into that good night"?

That terrible probability is why some of us, a handful, strive to warn, futilely, I fear.

But not going gentle means not giving up.

UPDATE:  Comments gone.

I don't know if this is a hack attack or if I accidentally deleted everything with a wrong check mark in a box, which seems a system flaw to allow that much to be lost by a simple keystroke withno "delete" confirmation dialog --I'm going to try to get back in and see if any reconstruction is possible -- in the mean time I'm putting in what I can recover from undeleted email notices under this and a few other posts, but it looks like it may be extensive and going to manyother posts.

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Comments I can recover:
Anonymous has left a new comment on your post "The Elefante in the Room":

WTF on the Jewish slapstick shit?

Many people believe large groups of geographically adjacent humans must make decisions collectively, by majority vote. Even if the majority decides to kill the people who believe this.

The German Jews voluntarily went to their deaths because they believed in voting. Similarly, White Americans seem prepared to go to their deaths because they similarly believe in voting, and immigrants (Mexican, Muslim, whatever) are headed to become a majority.

Apparently, the idea that it is morally bogus for one group to convert another group to their religion at swordpoint never occurs to Whites. This moral blind spot is so huge and obvious it's slapstick. Laurel and Hardy try to vote a piano up a staircase.

David Codrea has left a new comment on your post "The Elefante in the Room":

No vote, so somebody makes the rules and the people being ruled have no say?

I'd like to see if where I suspect you're going with this is right.

Carlos Perdue has left a new comment on your post "The Elefante in the Room":

Fred Reed is really masterful when he argues with his own straw men!

Anonymous has left a new comment on your post "The Elefante in the Room":

The amount of liberty in any age is the result of the military balance of power of the moment, delayed by some years while human morality catches up. The price of weapons is dropping due to technological progress. Cheaper weapons favors individual defense against centralized offense. Never in human history has it been cheaper to make a cruise missile such as a pistol on a drone. Soon, everybody can have a swarm of flying monkeys.

Grimm fairy tales feature area denial for defense, the enchanted forest which eats trespassers. Wizards today are real, they are computer programmers. The little kit robots which are presently toys will become the eyes and the mouths in the forest. Then the revenuers will have a real problem. Without taxes, government can't pay its employees. Poof! No more government.

Successful defense against criminal attack, liberty, is a positive spiral. Make a little bit of liberty and you create the opportunity to make more liberty. You don't see this positive spiral so much today because mostly the people willing to do it are drug criminals, who prefer to maintain the status quo with its government drug price supports.

Anonymous has left a new comment on your post "The Elefante in the Room":

Consider the occupation of computer programmer. This well-paid white collar work is at the heart of the economy, yet there is no government requirement for education, licensing, insurance, anything. You're required to have 1,500 hours of instruction and a license to cut hair, but zip to program computers. For programmers the sun is shining and there are no government busybodies in sight. In legal climate terms it is the eye of the hurricane. Doesn't this strike you as...impossible?

Military strength comes from industrial productive capacity and nowhere else. Plan now for a future with flying cars and Mars colonies, because the corner has almost turned where individuals can create faster than groups can destroy.


David Codrea said...

Anonymous has left a new comment on your post "The Elefante in the Room":

Of course that's the result it will produce. Communism/Socialism/collectivism always produces that result, everywhere it's tried, and the flavor of communism where "voters" hire the government is no different. You've lost this military contest.